Comments on: Yet another post about Lowe Brindfors, perhaps in their defence…

By: Björn Alberts

Björn Alberts — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:04:27 +0000

Jesper, interesting thoughts. I like the idea of thinking big and that you said "they didn’t think big enough".

Wouldn't it be lovely to find that client or case that truly let you and a couple of creative friends with mixed competencies to think really big. Creating a superior interactive and rich SE-optimised experience that linked resources and people together in one great "thing" adaptive to each users preferences.

However, I guess they're hard to find and as always it isn't a purpose of its own to create this. Still there need to be a purpose and a positive ROI.

What would be created? Was it just a vision or a dream?

Would be interesting if followers of your blog could post some links to cases that are close to that kind of nirvana...

By: Slumpnavigerat 1 okt 2009 | Slumpnavigator

Slumpnavigerat 1 okt 2009 | Slumpnavigator — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:56:48 +0000

[...] Pappersnostalgi hindrar reklambyråer att förstå webben Lowe Brindfors och Forsman Bodenfors har fått mycken välförtjänt kritik för sin relation till webb på sistone. För ”the full story”, följ de länkar som Tommy Sundström listat under ”Andra om Lowe Brindfors …” och balansera (?) med Jesper Åströms senaste. [...]

By: Jesper Åström

Jesper Åström — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:15:21 +0000

Indeed it is, and to argue against any of the arguments that you bring up in your original post would be like arguing against one of the main principles I live by like a religion – namely accessibility.

However, when I start to feel like I live by something like a religion, I know my critical alert systems gets paralyzed. It is thus my, and our duty to allways question our beliefs no matter how well we believe that they are a reflection of facts.

And I must fall into the chant that THIS is really one of the benefits of the web. To be able to ask a question by questioning and get instant responses from anyone in the whole wrold.

This blog has readers from US, Europe, India, China, Japan amongst many other countries… that is truely remarkable… insane… and quite humbling… Yet important!…

I need food. Off to eat.

By: Walter Naeslund

Walter Naeslund — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:29:39 +0000

When looking for an interesting angle on a topic, it’s often useful to swim upstream. And you are, when defending the surface-approach.

When visualizing data, it is useful to make a parable so that we can relate to something we are familiar with. The surface parable is just that. And of course it is useful as we can see with, for example, Prezi. But the visualization can’t be allowed to replace the fluid functionality of the web. We still need to be able to link to and from data for instance. It would be cool though if I could link to a specific spot on a surface like that, and if that surface contained real functional data. If it would be useful or not… maybe. The risk with designs like that is that they’re fun in the beginning but only annoying after a while.

I love your thinking though and it makes me evolve my own thinking. And THIS really is on of the benefits of the web!

By: Jesper Åström

Jesper Åström — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:07:37 +0000

I would NEVER give myself a carte blanche… Then it would become artwork and not anything that could be made business from. It would just be working so beautifully for everyone… However… a system that works for everyone will NEVER be created.. not because we can’t do it… but because we lock ourselves and our minds into little boxes made of mirrors caught up in our own vanity, not recognizing that we need to meet the need for every specific user rather than that of groups or audiences…

The technology to fully personalize the web experience is out there and quite cheap aswell… But to be given a waiver would make it a project that would last forever.. So… some boundaries such as budget… or purpose… would be good in any case..

By: Björn Alberts

Björn Alberts — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:01:50 +0000

Jesper, interesting thoughts. I like the idea of thinking big and that you said “they didn’t think big enough”.

Wouldn’t it be lovely to find that client or case that truly let you and a couple of creative friends with mixed competencies to think really big. Creating a superior interactive and rich SE-optimised experience that linked resources and people together in one great “thing” adaptive to each users preferences.

However, I guess they’re hard to find and as always it isn’t a purpose of its own to create this. Still there need to be a purpose and a positive ROI.

What would be created? Was it just a vision or a dream?

Would be interesting if followers of your blog could post some links to cases that are close to that kind of nirvana…

By: Jesper Åström

Jesper Åström — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:39:13 +0000

Indeed… I say nothing else than that the web is about people, content and links between them… but my Matrix-infested mind makes me wonder what the next web could be. Regardless if we are on a wave or if we are on a static page… it is still just people, content and links between them.. How this will look… is another question..

Remember… the social web was not created by an invention… it was created by a crash… and thus.. it is not a structured or institutional effort… and hence, I agree with your assessment that structure less web is what we’ll have to get comfortable with..

By: Christan Rudolf

Christan Rudolf — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:12:02 +0000

To quote “Obi One Jesper”

“The web is about people, content and links”

Nothing is static as we all like to hope it is to be able to control it. But the web is like a fire, constantly moving, creating heat but never goes out of firewood and this fire is out of control. Even the readwoods will fall this time.

The web is not about structure, like we would like to structure it with indexpages, chapters in a nice stringent way

there is just people, content and links